Sunday, August 7, 2011

Fast Forward to Hillary




I was one of those Democrats who campaigned for Hillary till the last moment, so maybe I am really biased against Obama. I am, sadly - sadly because the country has had to suffer - vindicated because my greatest fears about Obama have been confirmed. I felt then and am convinced now that Obama has held this narcissistic view that being the first black President would be his greatest accomplishment and that he was interested in making history primarily for the benefit of African-Americans and only secondarily - though a close second - solving the country's problems. In retrospect, he probably felt that the country's problems were insoluble and therefore it was not his job to solve them and that successive presidencies after his would complete the job. He in retrospect never saw himself as another FDR.

It seems crystal clear now, according to our 20-20 hindsight, that he did not understand the gravity of the problems that confronted Americans and how he could use the power of his presidency to solve a big chunk of those problems. He may have understood the statistics, having a full grasp of those statistics, but he did not seem to know in his heart what the economic problems did to the psyche of average Americans. This is why he did not act immediately, with the urgency of FDR's fight against the Great Depression. He did not seem to know that the people being hurt the most by the economic meltdown were African-Americans, 92% of whom had voted for him in the 2008 elections.

Obama should have multi-tasked, fighting for his health care reform and solving the jobs crisis at the same time. Instead, he chose to merely throw money at the unemployment problem and concentrated on his history-making health care reform. All that time, the much-respected columnist of the New York Times, Bob Herbert, was imploring him to treat the unemployment problem as his version of FDR's World War II, yet Obama's response was only a professorial acknowledgment that there was a huge unemployment problem plus speeches about the need to solve that problem. When he noticed that Republicans were blocking his half-hearted attempts to solve the problem, he did not go to the American people and denounce the obstructionist Republicans in Congress.

Hillary has always struck me as a bulldog who won't let go once her jaws are locked on a problem. She has always been a problem solver and a clear, decisive thinker. It's what came out of the Senate when she served there. It's what came out of the Lewinsky scandal, when she decisively sided with Bill and not let her emotions rule the day.

Obama's governance has been marked by his obsession with writing history. He refused to go after those who lied us into the Iraq war and those who created the mess in our economy, intent on creating a historic post-partisan legacy. He didn't much care what kind of health care plan came out of Congress, he only wanted to make sure that there was a health care plan that history would credit him for. He seemed to be uninterested in the details of the stimulus bill that he signed, 1/3 of which consisted of tax cuts that he was ambivalent about. He simply made sure there was a stimulus bill and that he would be credited by history as the President who stopped the economy from sliding into the ravine.

Obama does not seem to have any patience for details and is terrified of conflict. His 2004 speech before the Democratic convention said it all. "There are not red states or blue states, there is only the United States of America."

This was received by Americans gleefully and wholeheartedly and Obama got rave reviews. It was also naive. It was like Bush standing on the decks of the U.S.S. Lincoln and declaring "Mission Accomplished."

Obama was very, very wrong. The fact was, there were blue states and red states, and in many of those states, there were blue towns and red towns, blue communities and red communities, blue families and red families, blue brothers and red brothers.

The great divisions that had riven the country would not suddenly disappear just because we wished them to disappear. Obama, incredibly, did not have the foresight to know that his election into the Presidency, should that happen one day, would exacerbate the deep divisions in the country. He did not seem to know that his ascension to the Presidency would turn red states into deep red and blue states into deep blue.

How can a man so eloquent, so intelligent, so celebrated as a brain-iac be so naive and/or innocent?

The answer may lie in the fact that Obama is not really a black man. He is only half-black. In fact, psychologically he may have thought of himself as white when he was growing up under the care of his Caucasian grandparents in Hawaii. I am speculating, I know, but it is entirely possible that Obama did not grow up as a black boy. He probably did not know he was black unless he looked at himself in the mirror. And even while looking in the mirror he may not have seen a black boy.

This is key. If he did not know that he was a black boy and later a black man, he would not be aware of the deep hostility that many Americans, especially in the deep South and the heartland, hold for people of color. And if he in fact knew of this hostility, he seemed not to be aware of the intensity of this hostility in the first two years of his Presidency. He seemed to think that the opposition's wall of defiance had been erected because of policy differences only and not because of his being a black man with a black wife and a black family.

I think now in his third year he is fully aware of the racial roots of the livid hostility that permeates the air in most gatherings where the opposition talks about him. The problem, however, is that he is not fully equipped psychologically to handle the ferocity of the hatred and insults hurled in his direction at every turn.

"Kenyan," "Socialist," "Commie," "Muslim apostate" - these are just some of the epithets that white racists are using to diminish him. And yet, incredibly, he thinks that his best response is not to give a response, or at best a tepid response. Or a discussion of policy.

At a time when there is a war for the hearts and minds of Americans, Obama's followers are being led by a man who doesn't think there is a war. He thinks that the root causes are just policy differences and therefore the conflict could be won by exceptionally good policy. He did not think, initially, that the Tea Party-led Republican House members, for example, were willing to bring the whole economy down if the demands of those Tea Party Republicans were not met. He thought that if he crafted policy that was reasonable, the Tea Party-ers would come to their senses.

He was wrong and the country now suffers because America is perceived as being led figureheadedly by a leader who just doesn't get it. The country in fact is now led by a minority Tea Party that doesn't reflect what Americans visualize for the country, but who is willing to destroy America in order to rebuild it, an America that would rise from the ashes of their own destruction in the image of the Tea Party movement. Shades of American Vietnam policy - napalm bombing of whole villages in South Vietnam by American forces so new communities would someday spring up and be like model cities that the American military had envisioned.

A brilliant piece of psychoanalysis came out in the New York Times today which encapsulates what Obama's calculations and/or character flaws might be that have led to his continued insistence that the best policy is to compromise with his uncompromising opponents who are intent on his destruction and character assassination.

The author - Drew Westen, a psychology professor at Emory University and the author of "The Political Brain - The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation" - offers lucid conjectures on why Obama is Obama. It would be a crime not to repeat the author's words, digest them and peruse them in this, the post-mortem on the Obama presidency, which will either end in January 2013, or virtually earlier if he decides to become a non-factor, stepping aside for a suddenly resurrected Hillary.

"The most charitable explanation is that he and his advisers have succumbed to a view of electoral success to which many Democrats succumb — that “centrist” voters like “centrist” politicians. Unfortunately, reality is more complicated. Centrist voters prefer honest politicians who help them solve their problems. A second possibility is that he is simply not up to the task by virtue of his lack of experience and a character defect that might not have been so debilitating at some other time in history. Those of us who were bewitched by his eloquence on the campaign trail chose to ignore some disquieting aspects of his biography: that he had accomplished very little before he ran for president, having never run a business or a state; that he had a singularly unremarkable career as a law professor, publishing nothing in 12 years at the University of Chicago other than an autobiography; and that, before joining the United States Senate, he had voted "present" (instead of "yea" or "nay") 130 times, sometimes dodging difficult issues.

"... Perhaps those of us who were so enthralled with the magnificent story he told in “Dreams From My Father” appended a chapter at the end that wasn’t there — the chapter in which he resolves his identity and comes to know who he is and what he believes in.

"... (Obama's) stories virtually always lack one element: the villain who caused the problem, who is always left out, described in impersonal terms, or described in passive voice, as if the cause of others’ misery has no agency and hence no culpability. Whether that reflects his aversion to conflict, an aversion to conflict with potential campaign donors that today cripples both parties’ ability to govern and threatens our democracy, or both, is unclear.

"A final explanation is that he ran for president on two contradictory platforms: as a reformer who would clean up the system, and as a unity candidate who would transcend the lines of red and blue. He has pursued the one with which he is most comfortable given the constraints of his character, consistently choosing the message of bipartisanship over the message of confrontation.

"But the arc of history does not bend toward justice through capitulation cast as compromise. It does not bend when 400 people control more of the wealth than 150 million of their fellow Americans. It does not bend when the average middle-class family has seen its income stagnate over the last 30 years while the richest 1 percent has seen its income rise astronomically. It does not bend when we cut the fixed incomes of our parents and grandparents so hedge fund managers can keep their 15 percent tax rates. It does not bend when only one side in negotiations between workers and their bosses is allowed representation. And it does not bend when, as political scientists have shown, it is not public opinion but the opinions of the wealthy that predict the votes of the Senate. The arc of history can bend only so far before it breaks."

What an indictment. The problem for Obama is that the people who are saying these and similar things about him are not his opponents - they are his supporters and people who voted for him in 2008 and are no longer inclined to vote for him next year.

I can't see any future for Obama in these few months leading up to the elections in 2012 - does the election season start in December this year or in January next year or have the general elections already started? (Obama versus an unidentified Republican) - and he would do everybody a big favor by simply getting out of the way and letting the Clintons try to salvage the Democratic Presidency that is still the country's hope against the abuses and terroristic tactics of the Tea Party-led Republicans.

I suspect that there will be a growing grass-roots movement to encourage Hillary to step into the primaries. But, life is long, with many twists and turns. Obama can still salvage his unraveled presidency by issuing an executive order that declares United States debt as a sacred promise that America will always honor. His executive order will abolish the debt ceiling and declare that debt ceilings are unconstitutional since the 14th amendment clearly states that all legitimately acquired public debts of the U.S. shall be honored. This would effectively prevent another debt ceiling debate in the future and reassure the world that the U.S. will never, ever default on its obligations.

The resulting debate would put Obama front and center once more in the public's consciousness, resurrecting his image as a consequential President and not as a spectator in the history that is now being made by Tea Party Republicans.

The only hitch to this grand design is that Obama would not do this. It will require boldness and a willingness to gut it out, to stick it out the way Bill Clinton did during the impeachment hearings and the subsequent trial in the Senate. Obama does not have it in him to be subjected to threats and actual Congressional deliberations on his impeachment. Obama thinks his job is to be re-elected and any constraints on his electioneering are out of the question.

And he still wishes to this day that people would just get along.

This is why Democrats will increasingly call for Hillary to come forward and claim the Presidency which should have been hers to begin with had the country not been bamboozled by an eloquent but vastly inexperienced and untested Obama. Remember the 3:00 a.m. phone call that Hillary had warned all of us about?

9 comments:

  1. From Gene Pulmano, by email:


    Chay,

    Are we writing here a requiem or postmortem (figuratively, that is) and singing the blues?

    We're in the same page.

    Somehow, we got to vent it out. Because, so much hope, so many opportunities missed and "blown in the wind"....I reminded of Peter, Paul & Mary's Blowing in the Wind. Here's the music and lyrics, both written by Bob Dylan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIFxbOZezhE

    (Music and Lyrics by B. Dylan ©19xx) How many roads must a man walk down
    Before they call him a man
    How many seas must a white dove sail
    Before she sleeps in the sand
    How many times must the cannonballs fly
    Before they are forever banned
    The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind
    The answer is blowing in the wind

    How many years must a mountain exist
    Before it is washed to the sea
    How many years can some people exist
    Before they're allowed to be free
    How many times can a man turn his head
    And pretend that he just doesn't see
    The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind
    The answer is blowing in the wind

    How many times must a man look up
    Before he can see the sky
    How many ears must one man have
    Before he can hear people cry
    How many deaths will it take till he knows
    That too many people have died
    The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind
    The answer is blowing in the wind


    Gene

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  2. From Tony Nievera by email:


    I like your analogy using "blowing in the wind", I think many of BO supporters were smoking something, that all they did was puffed the magic dragon :-)
    Teasing...
    Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea
    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee,
    Little Jackie paper loved that rascal puff,
    And brought him strings and sealing wax and other fancy stuff. oh

    Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea
    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee,
    Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea
    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.

    Together they would travel on a boat with billowed sail
    Jackie kept a lookout perched on puffs gigantic tail,
    Noble kings and princes would bow whenever they came,
    Pirate ships would lower their flag when puff roared out his name. oh!
    [ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/peter+paul+mary/puff+the+magic+dragon_10205000.html ]
    Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea
    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee,
    Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea
    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.

    A dragon lives forever but not so little boys
    Painted wings and giant rings make way for other toys.
    One grey night it happened, Jackie paper came no more
    And puff that mighty dragon, he ceased his fearless roar.

    His head was bent in sorrow, green scales fell like rain,
    Puff no longer went to play along the cherry lane.
    Without his life-long friend, puff could not be brave,
    So puff that mighty dragon sadly slipped into his cave. oh!

    Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea
    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee,
    Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea
    And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.


    Cheers
    Tony

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  3. From Jay Jacobs by email:


    Hey Cesar, your contortions NEVER were on "hiatus." LOL!

    You'll like this, Cesar: check out fellow contortionist Axelrod, on the Teabaggers. You know, I have to hand it to those M/F'ers, they have quite the bragging rights when a big Socialist like him sounds off.
    .....
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/08/07/ftn/main20089207.shtml

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  4. From Tony Nievera by email:

    Chay- I agree Hillary would have been a better Democratic choice. Hillary by affinity has executive experience, advising and looking at how Bill run Arkansas and answer 3 am calls while serving his two term as President. I might have even voted for her as first female President if she ran against McCain.

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  5. From Lynn Abad Santos by email:


    CHAY,

    IF YOU MEAN DOES HILLARY HAVE MORE BALLS THAN MOST MEN, THE ANSWER IS YES. IF THE REPUBLICANS EVER TRIED THIS BUDGET IMPASSE SCENARIO ON HER, SHE WOULD EAT THEM FOR LUNCH.

    SADLY I AGREE, SHE IS THE ONLY DEMOCRAT WHO CAN HUMILIATE THE REPUBLICANS. THAT WOMAN HAS NO FEAR, BUT MORE IMPORTANT WHICH VERY VERY FEW KNOW, WHEN SHE ARGUES AGAINST HER OPPONENTS IN PRIVATE, SHE RAISES ISSUES NO ONE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT. THAT IS WHY REPUBLICANS FEARED HER, AND NEVER ONCE DARED MAKE FUN OF HER HUSBAND IN HER PRESENCE.

    SHE HAS THE GOODS ON ALL THE REPUBLICANS. HER TALENT FOR REDUCING AN ARGUMENT INTO ABSURDITY IS PHENOMENAL.IF BILL CLINTON'S IQ IS REPORTED TO BE 182, GUESS HOW HIGH HILLARY'S MUST BE

    SEN. MIRIAM DEFENSOR SANTIAGO OUR VALEDICTORIAN IN UP AND EDITOR IN CHEIF OF THE COLLEGIAN IS AS INTELLIGENT BUT NOWHERE AS COOL UNDER FIRE.

    WHEN BILL WAS BEING HOUNDED BY THESE REPUBLICANS IN THE MONICA LEWINSKY SCANDAL SHE CALLED THE WHITE HOUSE DEFENSE TEAM, PRESIDED OVER IT AND SAID "HERE IS THE STRATEGY FIRST WE DENY, THEN WE DELAY, THEN WE DEFEAT."

    IT DID NOT EVEN COME TO THE DELAY-PHASE BECAUSE WHEN LARRY FLINT OF HUSTLER OFFERED A $ 1 M REWARD FOR INFORMATION ON ANYONE IN THE PROSECUTION PANEL IN CONGRESS AND ALL THE STINK OF HYDE, BARR, LIVINGSTON, AND THE OTHERS CAME OUT OF THE WOODWORK. EVERYTHING CRUMBLED.

    THE WORST WAS GINGRICH BECAUSE HE WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR THE VERY SAME TIME HE WAS AGITATING FOR THE PROSECUTION OF CLINTON. WHEN ASKED AFTER HE WAS DISCOVERED WHY HE HAD THE GALL HE SAID " WELL I WAS NOT THE ONE ON TRIAL"

    IF THERE IS A MAGGOT ON THIS EARTH EQUAL TO THE HYPOCRISY OF MARCOS, IT IS NEWTERED GINGRICH HE IS THE CONSUMMATE HYPOCRITE.

    LYNN

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  6. From Ninotchka Rosca by email:


    I think that anyone who believes that what the Republicans are doing is good for the country.
    The S&P statement regarding the credit rate downgrading including the phrase "cut spending and raise revenues..."
    What we're seeing is actually an emasculated government and its takeover by corporatism.
    President Barack Obama has had the unfortunate luck of having to work with a Congress dominated by corporate stooges.
    And that includes Reid who, btw, refers to him as Obama...
    Liberal people are again falling in line with the Republican thesis that it's the president's fault.
    In actuality, what's happening is the fruition of Reagan's anti-government thesis
    Which leads to the ascendancy of Corporate America and Wall Street.
    Who's going to benefit from higher interests, anyway?

    In the process, the divisions within this country are intensifying.
    Wait a bit and see what's going to happen.
    We may all get something we aren't expecting.
    Ever wondered how many empires moneylenders wrecked?

    cheers,
    N

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  7. From Jay Jacobs by email:

    LOL! Outstanding Cesar, I LOVE it. Hehehehe.
    ........
    In that case Axelrod probably has it right because he understands modern politics. You can build a dynasty without being reelected over and over. If there was such a thing as politician who acted in our best interests, he would be a one termer. Can you imagine a politician who was honest and said entitlements MUST be brought to manageable levels? ALL entitlements, corporate and personal alike, even military spending. EEK! Third rail his azz! LOL.

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  8. From Lynn Abad Santos by email:


    CHAY,

    THIS XMAS, MY REPUBLICAN FRIENDS ( AND RELATIVES ) WILL BE ALL OVER ME AGAIN

    ONE TIME I TOLD THEM " IF ONLY YOU GUYS WILL FUND YOUR CANDIDATES SO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO SELL THEIR SOULS TO THE DEVILS, WE COULD HAVE A CONSTRUCTIVE DEBATE "

    IT IS SO SIMPLE - HOW CAN THEY EXPECT THEIR CANDIDATES TO FIGHT FOR THEM WHEN THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THEM?

    I TOLD THEM RIGHT OR WRONG DEMOCRATS IN WASHINGTON GET OVER 70% OF THEIR FUNDING DIRECTLY FROM THE PEOPLE.

    SO NATURALLY DEMOCRATS ARE NOT BEHOLDEN TO ANY SPECIAL INTEREST : YOU SEE WHAT YOU GET

    PERA LANG DI BA?

    SHOW ME WHO SUPPORTS YOU BEFORE YOU TELL ME WHAT YOUR PHILOSOPHY IS

    THEY CANNOT ANSWER, BUT THEY STILL DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT THE LOGIC

    SO I TOLD THEM "IF DEMOCRATS ACCEPTED 70% OF THEIR MONEY FROM WALL STREET, WOULD THEY BE CREDIBLE?"

    WHO DOES NOT WANT A SPIRITED DEBATE. THAT IS WHY WE CAME HERE. WE BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS. THE RIGHT OF
    EVERYMAN/WOMAN TO BE HEARD AND ACCOUNTED FOR

    BUT WHEN THE UPPER 2% WHO ALREADY OWN 90% OF THE NATION'S ASSETS WANT TO DICTATE THE RULES, THEN THAT IS NOT A DEMOCRACY

    THEY DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE ME THAT 2% OWN 90%. SO I TOLD THEM TO WATCH THE CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS ON TAXATION, AND THE CLOSING OF THE LOOPHOLES

    IN THE END I REALIZE REPUBLICAN SUPPORTERS ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING FACE THAN LOGIC. THAT IS NOT TRUE ONLY OF PINOY REPUBLICANS BUT OF ALL REPUBLICANS. THEY HAVE BEEN FOOLED INTO THIS "ELITIST" PERCEPTION" THAT THEY ARE ABOVE EVERYBODY BECAUSE SUPPOSEDLY THEY ARE MORE EDUCATED, MORE UPPER CLASS, CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS, SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS OWNERS ANTI-GAY ETC.

    THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WANTS TO PAINT ITSELF AS THE PARTY OF THE INTELLECTUAL, AND FINANCIAL ELITE, AND THEN MAKES THEIR MIDDLE AND LOWER INCOME FOLLOWERS BELIEVE THEY ARE ONE OF THEM - SADLY REPUBLICAN FOLLOWERS SUCK IT UP LIKE HONEY

    HOW CAN YOU WIN? THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SO BRAINWASHED LOGIC IS MEANINGLESS. EVERY NIGHT RACHEL MADDOW - LAWRENCE O'DONNELL, ED - AND THE OTHERS MOCK AND RIDICULE THEM WITH PROOF - NO EFFECT ON THE REPUBLICAN AUDIENCE

    I SENT THAT ARTICLE YOU SENT ME ABOUT THE DEFICIT ON "WHO CAUSED IT STARTING FROM REAGAN TO BUSH JR.". DID ANYBODY SAY IT WAS A LIE? NO. BUT THEY STILL REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT LOGIC DICTATES WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG

    NOTICE WITH REPUBLICANS WHEN THEY ARE LOSING AN ARGUMENT, THEY WILL JUMP INTO SOMETHING ELSE LIKE ABORTION, GAY RIGHTS, GUN RIGHTS, JUST SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO ADMIT THEIR IDOLS IN WASHINGTON ARE SCREWING THEM

    YOU KNOW THE SAYING " YOU CANNOT WIN FOR LOSING "

    LYNN

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  9. From Honorio Cruz by email:

    Cesar L,

    I have to salute you for admitting a mistake which most Americans are now realizing. Coming from the same side of the aisle, I guess carry more weight, however still missed some points.

    Let me just give my point of view which merge with some of your views. With all the hoopla about Obama and all the favorable reviews from the media and politicians, Obama was trailing McCain by 3% in October 3, 2008. That same week the Market Crashed and McCain got caught up in the quagmire of Bush and Republican Bashing, that McCain never recovered. It didn't help that McCain appeared wishy-washy and the left found a ready target, Sarah Palin. My impression of Obama was he was a book smart tone deaf politician and lacked common sense and couldn't think outside the box, thus some incomprehensible statements when out of his elements, the teleprompter and scripted appearances. His over a hundred present votes told me of indecision or lack of grasp of the problems confronting the state he was in, or a more sinister aim to avoid controversial votes he has taken and have to defend in future office aspirations, a blank slate.

    In truth he was a greenhorn politician and needed to be guided by his various handlers with competing ideas. When he was inaugurated and began appointing some middle of the road guys, veterans I felt a little reassured, but later, the optimism disappeared when he began appointing extreme left some, downright communists and rebels with checkered pasts as czars answerable only to him, and without confirmation by the Congress. With the guidance of his Conciglieri, Rahm Emanuel he was able to push through Legislation with half baked ideas, unread, undebated in an effort to capitalize on the Democratic Majority on both Houses leaving an embittered Republican minority. Legislation by cloture became a common occurrence even on substantive legislation. Is it no wonder that after two years when the tide turned and Republicans wrestled back the majority in the House, they are behaving just like the Democrats did.

    We are opposed to Obama coming from different perspectives, you from the left in that he did not push through leftist ideas, me for him yielding to the left too much, the middle for not seeking the middle road and the bitter partisanship originating from somebody who promised to be a president for all and fostering cooperation between parties. We got instead a president who seem to be in the campaign mode the whole time, becoming the head cheerleader for the Democrats in matters that is of importance to the State. He seem oblivious or as I'd say, tone deaf in how the president is perceived by the nation. In the midst of this terrible economic recession, he doesn't see the puzzlement of ordinary citizens that he seems not to be extending himself in trying to solve the problems of the nation, delegating to Joe while he goes around the nation for fund raising, vacations and when pressed to seek a compromise, is unable to do it. A weak leader who seem not to know which way to turn. Oh, he can talk but really doesn't say anything, cutting press conferences to the minimum with filibustering answers taking up most of the time and keeping questions to a minimum. A Clinton will conduct an impromptu news conference and answer all comers without gasping for air at the end. Even Bush with his difficulty with the English language answered more direct questions and you knew where he stands.


    ..HMC
    - Show quoted text -

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